Leave it to the Italians to make another great product.
Sort of like the old Ducatis that were famous for having fruit flies in the clearcoat ![Cheesy :D](http://twostrokemotocross.com/forum/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
HaHa yep exactly like that. TM's have a real handbuilt feel, and the quirks to go with that.
As a bike rider, fabricator, and engineer, I love the TMs.
They are gorgeous things to behold, and work pretty damned well, too.
I've had a fair bit bit of involvement with them, with a few friends owning them, and one in particular being a supported rider of the OZ distributors for a few years. So I don't look at them through rose coloured glasses. You can look at one, and amongst the beautiful engineering, you'll come across something that you'd expect on a twin pipe CZ. When they get it wrong, they really excel themselves
![Shocked :o](http://twostrokemotocross.com/forum/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
. I've had to do a bit of remedial engineering to each of his bikes.
But, they have been progressively getting rid of these types of things, and I'm hard put, with the latest models, to find fault with them.
Their 4ts started out with quite a few problems. Mention TM 4ts to 2 of my mates and they go very quiet, or very loud, and not from good experiences - all sorts of problems, the nastiest of which were cases that 'popped' / spilt across gear shaft bearing housings, locking up the engines in a spectacular fashion. Especially spectacular when you're right behind one when it 'popped' - quite the train wreck. But, that's a few years ago, and I'm sure they have moved on - the reports I read and hear are pretty good on the 4ts now. The new CCM, if it's ever released, will come with a TM engine.
Fantastic bikes, with some quirks. The world is a Much better place with companies like TM producing something other than 'cookie cutter' bikes.