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General Two Stroke Talk / Courtney Duncan WINS both motos over FI Foopers by a pretty big margin - YZ125

« on: May 18, 2013, 11:33:52 AM »

Just found this write up while scanning for the results of today's race, since the network/industry coverage kind of sucked....

Courtney Duncan, riding out of New Zealand, made a big impact in the 2013 Lucas Oil Pro Motocross Women’s Triple Crown season opener, winning both Moto 1 and Moto 2, each by a commanding margin. Adding to Duncan’s remarkable performance is the fact that she pilots a Yamaha YZ125 two-stoke. In Moto 1, Team Honda’s Sayaka Kaneshiro finished second, followed by MTF’s Mackenzie Tricker in third.

 Duncan got the lead early in Moto 1, followed by Kaneshiro in second and Tricker in third. KTM rider Alexah Pearson settled into fourth and was followed by Yamaha’s Jessica Patterson in fifth. Patterson started to move up the pack during the contest, making it up to third mid-race, but before the end she unexpected pulled off track with an issue, leaving her to finish 30th.
 Duncan continued her charge, building a gap of over 20 seconds on Kaneshiro.

 In Moto 2, Patterson returned determined to redeem herself after the disappointing result in Moto 1. She quickly moved to the head of the pack, but Duncan was close behind in second and within six minutes had passed Patterson for the lead. Once out front, Duncan again displayed her superiority over the field, creating a gap that grew to over 14 seconds by the checkers.

 Patterson held on to finish second, followed by Kaneshiro in third and Honda rider T-bug Higgins in fourth. KTM rider Jacqueline Strong rounded out the top-five in Moto 2.

 Duncan leaves Hangtown with the lead in overall points, eight ahead of Kaneshiro. Higgins sits third overall followed by Tricker in fourth and Strong in fifth.

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General Two Stroke Talk / Boycott Duke Video.

« on: May 14, 2013, 08:21:30 AM »

"The Motocross Vault" on YouTube has been deleted owing to complaints issued by Duke Video.

This move limits access to real Motocross and Supercross, while YouTube is jam packed with farty 4 stroke races. I am not interested in 4 stroke races no matter how well hyped they are, so the racing I like to watch is missing now.

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General Two Stroke Talk / 2013 kX450F tranny issues

« on: September 13, 2012, 12:43:06 PM »

so we picked up a brand new KX450F within an hour of it being received get one ride on it. goes like a butt-bubbler break in is in full swing. second ride we go out and on third moto i come down out of a corner and try to shift to third only to find it is stuck in second. "Launch Mode" button on handle bar is blinking like a browneye in the Village People, but then the bulb bunt out. less than an hour on the bike. so now it is back at the dealership repair bill, big bill large bill very huge repair bill(not under warranty).
just wondering if any other 11-13 owners have had any problems like this?

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General Two Stroke Talk / American Fonda's Bart Buttfart spotted at MX-Life dot TV

« on: June 08, 2012, 11:54:46 AM »

Dear "MX-Life.tv" via the "Contact us" link.

Hello,

Last year, I used to look forward to a lot of the European races and would follow most of the rounds more closely than our own boring FOOPER racing here in the United States under the AMA...  Or as it is increasingly known here, the Gay-M-A.

Last year, I would buy my GP Passes for all the rounds that included the EMX125cc Class and watch BOTH MOTOS. Now, I notice that the European Series is sadly starting to follow in the Boring Americam series footsteps... and 2 Stroke fans are getting screwed by only getting to see one moto of real action.

4 Stroke racing is not even real motocross, it's just a bland imitation of real motocross where the motorcycles sound like farts.

American Honda Motor Corp is said to have commissioned the following video to find out whether or not their Farty 4 Stroke Pigcycles did in fact sound like farts? -



Turns out it's true, they look lumpy and slow going around the track AND they sound like Farts.

Honda's Buttfart Regional Orafice confirmed it in just one Sqirt... "They do in fact sound like farts..."

So there you have it.

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General Two Stroke Talk / Old essay about fake Two Stroke racing efforts...

« on: May 19, 2012, 03:31:20 AM »

Want to know something INTERESTING???

Once again no disrespect to Mike Sleeter, but ever since they went to press with the whole "Factory for a day" thing and all that, I smelled a RAT in the soup... It didn't seem logical to me that a company would choose this method to showcase the merits of several of their bikes side by side. Don't get me wrong, it could only bolster the 450SXF's credability if the privateer they chose went out there and got ANY sort of results at all..., BUT I was also thinking to myself that it would discredit the 250SX 2t quite a bit to hype this thing the way they did, and give the public the impression that a fast guy from KTM was going out there on the 2 stroke, and then have him pull a "Charlie brown kicks the football" moment and not even qualify, or perhaps run dismally in the main on TV.

We heard fair amount of hype about Factory For A Day "ONE LUCKY PRIVATEER IS GOING TO GET TO RACE HANGTOWN ON MIKE SLEETER'S FACTORY KTM450SXF... BECAUSE MIKE HAS CHOSEN TO RIDE A 250SX TWO STROKE AT HANGTOWN!..." What they aren't telling you is that Mike Sleeter HAS HARDLY EVER QUALIFIED IN THE MOTOCROSS CLASS...

http://www.amadirectlink.com/.../proracing/index.asp

I checked all the AMA Motocross Results Archives going back to Hangtown 07 which is the first national where he did timed qualifying for the Motocross Class. So far, and I have been looking, I haven't been able to find an archive of the results for the 2009 year. I'm still trying though!

His results, while riding a KTM450SXF, were:

Hangtown 2007 - 42nd Place Qualifier KTM450SX
Washougal 2007 - 36th Place Qualifier KTM450SX
Thunder Valley 2007 - 49nth Place Qualifier KTM450SX
Glen Helen 2007 - 37th Place Qualifier KTM450SX

Thunder Valley 2008 - 48th Place Qualifier KTM450SX
Washougal 2008 - 42nd Place Qualifier KTM450SX

Bear in mind, only the top 35 make the cut.

Public Relations is a complex game, with lots of ways to work the angles. I think KTM got exactly what they wanted out of this years Hangtown national. The black helicopters outside tell me that perhaps they got what they planned to get... Their new 350 4T came out shining brighter than Mike Alessi's "Jersey Shore" podium talk. One lucky unknown guy got his golden ticket to the chocolate factory onboard the 450 4T. And, a guy who had never, or almost never, qualified in the Motocross class went out there ON THE 250sx and did it like he always does, and "Took the fall" perfectly.

I'm about to head out to Pennsylvania for a Memorial day weekend of riding, and I should be loading up right now. But I wanted to write this out and post it immediately when I saw how Sleeter's bad results had dissapointed 2 stroke fans. I saw that a few people were scratching their heads while perhaps looking for their answers in the wrong places.

Don't blame the 2 stroke is right! Sleet actually improved on some of his past results and 46th wasn't far off his average. And, he's older now!

KTM is a brilliant marketing machine. They know where it pays to dump a lot of money into promotion... Mike Alessi costs more money than Snooki! They know how to generate positive press. "Unknown guy is FACTORY FOR A DAY!... Makes the main on borrowed 450SX-F!" And, they also know how to use marketing sleight of hand.

If you're like most people, you probably got the impression that Mike Sleeter had a "Factory" KTM 4 stroke that he was vacating for this 1 round so that he could ride the 2 stroke, and having a "Factory" bike, with your number on it, to lend out to one lucky privateer makes it appear that you are a factory guy, granted maybe a less well known factory guy. And being a "Factory" guy who doesn't qualify for the main leaves people with the impression that something had to be wrong, either with the rider, or the bike... Unless those people know that the guy in question hasn't qualified no matter what bike he was on, and of course that fact wasn't in any of the "Factory for a day!" fluff and hype.

It's not that KTM is working to kill their 2 strokes, they make great bikes everyone knows this and states it over and over. But I do believe they're smart enough to know that their 2 stroke lines will sell no matter what press they get. 2 Strokes are selling based on their merits these days. They have begun to regain popularity IN SPITE of more than a decade of steep bias in the rules, and the media. For a long time, the industry tried to stack the deck with mountains of pro 4 stroke hype, and an almost complete media exclusion of the 2 stroke. Now with the backlash to that approach starting to take root, and people like Brian Shuckhart (He qualifies, that's for sure!), John Nicolas, Mike Leavitt, Sedric Soubreyas, John Dowd (MB250 win at 338!), James Stewart (When he's riding, not talking), and Jake Weimer actually doing things that reflect positively on the 2 stroke, it appears that the "Mums the word when it comes to the 2 strokes" approach isn't working as well as it once did. I thought pretty soon some people in the industry would probably start to take a more active approach to downplaying the 2 stroke.

I think that's exactly what KTM did by publicizing Mike Sleeter's hangtown trial on the 250SX. What else could your intentions be when you put a guy who hasn't ever qualified out there on the 2 stroke and give this attempt more press than all of his other national rounds combined have gotten him?....

It smells fishy...

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General Two Stroke Talk / ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz...... Who's winning the XR450 Class? The XR250 Class? ...

« on: May 05, 2012, 12:15:33 PM »

Yeah.... Foopercross....

God, even when they try to zoom in for an "Action Shot" of these guys going through a 180 bowl turn.... its BOARRRRrrriiiiiiiiiiiing 

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........

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General Two Stroke Talk / We should preserve this board's history.

« on: May 03, 2012, 04:00:42 PM »

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN,

Why not let me put this board up on another server I have running? We can populate it with outbaound links to the new board, so that people cross over, but it will preserve what's here as an archive.

There's enough here just in the "Photos and Videos" that it's a shame to lose it all.

We are in the midst of a kind of exciting turn around in this game, and this board has ducumented the progress and state of things from the darkest days [2008] all the way through Taddy beating everyone's ass on a 250, then Cedric doing it again, and all the rest...

This board has the whole resurgence's history in it. We should at least preserve it as an archive.

I can do that. I have the server/databases and it won't cost me anything to do it.

I am familiar with and skilled in the maintenance of these boards.

Thanks,

Jim
JRealTime@aol.com

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General Two Stroke Talk / Dear MX-Life.com ....

« on: April 06, 2012, 08:15:00 AM »

Write to MX-Life.com here if you like - http://www.mx-life.tv/contact

"To Whom It May Concern,

I would like to know if you can tell me which rounds of the GP Series will have the EMX125cc Races?

I was going to buy my GP Pass for this weekends race just now, but when I looked the the event schedule, I didn't see the 125cc races noted there...

I'm not interested in MX1 or MX2 or any of the other 100% 4-Stroke Races because they are boring...

Can you tell me which rounds will have the 125cc 2-Stroke races so I can buy those?

Thanks,

Jim"

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General Two Stroke Talk / "On The Mainjet" Interesting Tuning Product gets Rave Review in MXA...

« on: April 02, 2012, 10:09:17 AM »

http://motocrossactionmag.com/Reviews/News/MXA-TEAM-TESTED-DICKS-RACING-INTELAJET-CARB-MOD-8464.aspx

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General Two Stroke Talk / Get Dirty MX has Ricky Renner T Shirts for sale for fifteen bucks

« on: March 28, 2012, 02:16:49 AM »

If you get one, reply on this Vital MX Thread so that the topic bumps and stays visible .

Get Dirty MX is not my site or store and I have no affiliation whatsoever. BUT, I think that supporting this type of thing is important because it's a way of showing that a company that supports two stroke people will be rewarded with a market. This is the route of all the good things that can happen. It's the single most motivating factor for anyone in the industry.

As good as the donation route is, the problem with it is that it shows support in a more subtle way known only to those who make donations, and those who recieve them. What's better about buying a product is that the purchases encourage the introduction of addittional similar products. The success of products that are directly associated with our vision is like a flag on a hill to people in the industry. We need to make the support of two strokes and two stroke people as PUBLIC and VISIBLE as possible.

If this company has success with this Ricky Renner two stroke product, we might even see other companies start to chime in.... "TWO STROKE REVOLUTION" shirts at the MOTO TEES booth this summer???

LINK TO VITAL THREAD
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Ricky-Renner-Braaaap-at-the-Bayou-Tees,1235316

LINK TO STORE SITE WITH THE SHIRTS - [Scroll Down to bottom of the page]
http://getdirtymx.com/shirts.php

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General Two Stroke Talk / Maybe it's time for this community to start leaving "Dirt Rider" on the shelf?

« on: March 16, 2012, 03:54:04 AM »

It seems to be much more of a Fooper Sucking rag now that Jimmy's not the editor anymore.

They now seem to be brown-nosing all things Fooper with all their might to try to get more advertising in the magazine or something...

A 350 Fumper offroad shootout??? ..... yeah... that's cool.

I got 10 cents for my copy of Frrrt Wider down at the recycling center and put it towards the new MXA.

No need for another Fooper magazine...

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General Two Stroke Talk / Anyone Notice that Chad Reed said riders were "Forced" onto FOOPERS for 2006?

« on: March 11, 2012, 07:14:20 PM »

While the rest of the paid for talking heads in the box kept trying to address the subject by saying something like, "Beginning in 2006, when we all chose to go the way of the Foopers.... We all chose to go that way...."

Chad went against that.

FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER from someone inside the butt-loaf industry itself... he said "We were actually forced into it".

This was said during one of the usual heavy breath and hand lotion poetry readings that we get almost every week from the Foopercross announce-a-tards about how "There's no hesitation anymore with today's Fooper.... These bikes are snugly girthsome and large... They are truely the "Hoss" of this scene... [Pant pant thump thump thump] from under the desk....

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General Two Stroke Talk / On Big Hills... In Deep Sand... Can anything hang with a FOOPER??? ***YES***

« on: February 21, 2012, 07:37:56 AM »

Another GREAT RACE from an even greater YouTube Channel... We should all comment and tell this guy how nice it is to have HIS races that he converts and posts to watch instead of the piped in "FOOP
ERCROSS" that we have today... Today's racing is like elevator music....

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General Two Stroke Talk / Tiny Jumps, Tiny Whoops, Tiny Berms,... Is it Because the bikes are so GOOD???

« on: February 15, 2012, 11:08:28 AM »

ON VITAL MX - "FourFoopty" wrote:

Dirt Works is doing their work today with a different set of instructions.
 
Pro Racing is all about selling product. That isn't anything new it's always been that way, right?
 
The difference is that the capabilities of the equipment that's being put on the stage to "Perform" in todays shows has come down.... The bikes are heavier and don't handle as well.
 
Dirt Works basically works for the manufacturers. Their job is to build a stage that allows their bkes and riders to perform to their potential, so that they can put on the best possible show for the bike and equipment buying spectators.
 
When the best riders in the world were paid by the manufacturers to ride light, fast 2 stroke machines, tracks used to be made very extreme and difficult so that the full potential of the bikes and riders would be demonstrated. The best riders in the world were able to do much more extreme things on those bikes....
 
Now that the best riders in the world have it in all their contracts that they must ride bikes that don't perform as well in order to make their mortgage payments... tracks must be built much flatter with smaller jumps, gentle takeoff angles, smaller whoops, little tiny on/off table tops, and little tiny berms. The best riders in the world aren't able to do quite the same level of things on todays bikes....

ON VITAL MX - "moto282" wrote: LOL... Hope that was a joke.

FourFoopty Replied:
 
Well, so far it seems like most people agree that the tracks of today are made up of smaller little obstacles.
 
Do the smaller, weaker tracks of today make sense if the bikes are actually "Better" dirtbikes now???
 
THUMPER HUMPERS in the industry might say - "We have to make the tracks tiny now with little jumps, little whoops, little berms, because the bikes are so fast now that we don't want to put any dirtbike obstacles in the way...."

BUT - That sounds like some bullshit you might hear as a dealer tells you he's got dusty 4 strokes for sale at a discount... Nice try but that doesn't make sense.
 
Do the tracks have to be built small and flat now because the 4Foopty's are SO fast that they can't race on big obstacles??? Would they be jumping "Full Sections"
 
FOOPER TROOPERS in the industry might say - "IF the tracks were built with those big jumps, big whoops, and big berms nowadays, the 4Foopty's would just jump the whole stadium and bounce off the roof... No one would have to truck them to the next round because they could just JUMP to the next round..."

BUT - When you watch the races with the big jumps and whoops in them, there were 4Foopty's in the races, and they weren't jumping whole sections... that's for sure. Maybe if a triple counts as a triple during the heats and main, but counts as a "Full Section" during the Semi's and LCQ... If that was the case then yeah, Foopers jumped lots of "Full Sections".

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General Two Stroke Talk / James Stewart on a Fumper is like "House" doing surgery with a spork....

« on: February 12, 2012, 04:24:38 AM »

It is SO painful to watch such a pure talent go to waste trying to ride Supercross on a bike that looks like it handles like one of those victorian claw-foot bath tubs half full of water... James Stewart on a Fooper is like a great surgeon using a spork.

Check out this old race and look at how much BETTER the top guys are riding... and look at how much bigger and more demanding the obstacles are... I mean some of those "On-Off Table Tops" from the track last night were so sleight that when the camera showed them from a bit of a distance, you could hardly even see the angles.... And the whoops do not even begin to compare in size, NOT AT ALL...

I know James made fun of the YZ250 but if he had one on the track tonight, he would probably have been so much better off... And, when you look at the sizes of the obstacles that were on the San Diego track back when the tracks were built for more capable dirt bikes, you have to figure that the YZ would take the lesser amplitude of today's tracks with ease.