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Athena Non-Battery EFI!
« on: March 13, 2012, 06:43:09 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2012, 09:14:04 PM »
I kept waiting for that bike to seize in that one section of the video haha.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2012, 09:23:53 PM »
notice what all the applications had in common?

continuous load applications. no on/off throttle modulation.  airboat motor. weed whacker.  scooter-motard thing on a dyno.

I want to see it as much as the next guy, but until I see this on a two stroke motocross bike, where the throttle is contantly on/off/partial, I will remain skeptical.  That video is old.  I am also of the mind, that if these worked the way they say they do, we would see some of them in the real world by now.  I have yet to see it.

And I don't think Charles Owens experience went to well with an EFI kit.

I am seriously disappointed in the whole injection thing

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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2012, 09:37:58 PM »
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I know its doable  ;D, HGT had problems at home, "I have 30 years of experience trust me. Buy my product."
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2012, 09:58:49 PM »
I know "Hybrid", and that bike was megasquirted.  He pulled off the megasquirt (actually microsquirt) and put carbs back on it.  It's an RZV500 motor in a 3MA TZ chassis with Biaggi-era fairings with a King Kenny-era strobe paint job.

That bike will spit a grown man off so fast in mid-turn, you either have to come into the corner on the pipe, or lug it the whole way through.  So much fun "commuting" places with your **** puckered the whole time.

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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2012, 10:03:49 PM »
Nice smooth idle on that Banshee. I do still agree with the earlier post. I have had so much hope for EFI/DFI systems but the lack of a unit "in combat" on two wheels is clear evidence that it is not easy. May still be a long way off for the dirty/bouncy/compact application that a offroad or MX bike represents. That CR500 did look promising but there were not close up shots of the unit or any details of the implementation. Please let this be real....
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2012, 10:21:37 PM »
holy ****... look at the back of the cylinder head on the YZ, the intake had to be fabbed upward into the throttlebody like that to utilize the airbox location on the YZ vs the old CR500.

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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2012, 10:24:52 PM »
With the banshee I'm trying to see if he has hp/tq dyno figures of the banshee yet, but so far it averages about 60 miles to the tank(18.6 mpg for a twin 2 stroke quad.. :o) and its ran about 80 gallons of fuel.

Was wondering about that as well. Here is the dyno graph for the cr500:

(Max power 68.66hp and 59.15ftlbs of torque. Motor is stock with vforce reeds and fmf pipe/silencer, no port work)

I would simply post a link to the thread on cr500rider.com but they have a strict cr500 riders only deal and won't allow anyone on the forum unless you join.  ???

Stock 2010-12 yz450f dyno:
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2012, 10:53:25 PM »
you know, Jimmy Decotis on that CR125 is pretty much a "continuous load" application.

Speaking of which, that guy is hurt and out of the season, again.  He and Trey Canard are going to end up losing their rides just due to injuries alone.

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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2012, 11:45:44 PM »
you know, Jimmy Decotis on that CR125 is pretty much a "continuous load" application.

Speaking of which, that guy is hurt and out of the season, again.  He and Trey Canard are going to end up losing their rides just due to injuries alone.

i love watching jimmy on that 125!!

and seriously i hope they come back without getting injured right away, god knows canard is due for some time on the bike without something else to knock him out again
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2012, 04:38:46 PM »
wow this is important stuff !

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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2012, 01:07:49 PM »
DI IS the future. No one said it is easy. But without it 2-strokes will continue to die. It has been implemented in boats for years, and snowmobiles recently. It is all about development $. No company that currently produces DI 2-strokes makes dirt bikes.
Ossa is actually 95% DI, they just used a second injector to cool the crank. That is the only issue they had with it. Husky claims to have a DI300 coming out in a year. It is only a matter of time. KTM will be forced to finish developing theirs and sell it.