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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2012, 02:10:17 AM »
I'm glad this topic came up, b/c I've been contemplating trading my 250 for a 125.  I really need to find one to ride since I haven't been on one in about 10 years or more.  All I've had since my last 125 is 250's.  I've been riding for a long time, but still pretty novice on the track.

I just never feel like I can really get on top of my 250.  It makes me 'respect' it a little too much. 

Then again, when I hit the trail every now and then, I can't really imagine not having a 250.

Decisions!



Try getting farther over the front of the bike, and looking farther ahead down the track.  it makes you have to tip-toe around the power a lot less.

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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2012, 04:05:47 AM »
125 all the way here been racing/rideing 125's since 1976 so much more fun and alot more flickable over jumps nothing sounds better than a bunch of wound up 125's going around a track  :o  :P  :D

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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2012, 08:25:15 PM »
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It makes me 'respect' it a little too much.
Sit on the gas tank and give it some throttle. I used to have that respect too, but eventually I moved back on the seat from the gas tank  ;D
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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2012, 04:36:41 AM »
the 300's the way forward if you wanna be kicking bore stroke ass  :P

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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2012, 07:07:13 PM »
I'd say if you can pull it off...both!

Really, unless you've been riding the bigger bikes (250 or open class), you can't really appreciate the 125 and how much sheer fun it is. Conversely, it is the same for the bigger bikes. Until you thrashed (or been thrashed) by the 125, you don't know just how sweet available power actually is.

So for the closest thing to having it both ways is splitting the difference (144/150/175/200) but then it's like getting a prettier girlfriend only find all her (and now your) friends are all hotter.

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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2012, 12:34:11 AM »
I'm fortunate to have a 05 yz125 and a 06 rm250 . The 125 is such a great tool to learn corner speed. When I get on the 250 the power is almost overwhelming at 1st, then I settle in to it. But I also try to throw it around like the 125. I know I'm faster on the 250 because of the 125....

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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2012, 09:49:24 AM »
First two stroke I ever rode was a 2001 YZ250. Its a bloody weapon but you've got the experience of riding the 125 and thats more than I had. The main reason I got my 250 over a 125 was engine life, the YZ250s are often more braappers than they are screamers. Just my experience or atleast my 250 is definitely so. I can ride it in low-mid and it keeps the engine going alot longer. Again I would've prefered a 125 for the sake of pure fun but the beauty of the 250 is all the power is there its up to the rider to use it or not. No bike will build your skills like a 125 will and no bike is as fun. Period. The 250s powerband is alot more forgiving though and abuse of the clutch isn't quite as required. Again just speaking for my 250. I'd say see if you can ride someone else's like a mates 250 or something before making your decision. I know twosmoke has said he is about 3 seconds faster on his 125 than he ever was on his 250
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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2012, 10:08:03 AM »
you're right stu

250's are greats bikes that have a ton of power on tap, and yes i am faster on my 125 than i was on my 250, but i think that if i practiced on the 125 and then hopped on the 250 i would be even faster than that purely bc of the more power the 250 has to offer


they're both great bikes, and i'm glad that my dad bought my yz250, and that i have the 125, bc whenever i want i can hop on the 250 and go, plus its fun to watch my dad who's ridden nothing but 250's and up since he's gotten big bikes to ride my 125 around. He's all about the lazy riding style/smooth power with power on tap type of stuff

the one thing i'd say is try and ride each bike, and ride whatever you feel you like the best
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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2012, 10:29:55 AM »
exactly, its all about personal preference. but hey at the end of the day, unless you're riding competitive MX, SX, AX whatever, isn't fun what really counts? No sound is better than a 125 cc two stroke engine at full noise, no engine is more fun to be on top of. But again, personal preference. I really like the lugability of my 250 but my friend's RM 125 is absolute gold to abuse, she loves it. Yeah you might go through a few more pistons and clutches, but heres some rough prices:
Note: example bike is a 2006 YZ125

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/44/54/228/895/3908/4495/EBC-Clutch-Kit

http://www.motosport.com/dirtbike/WISECO-TOP-AND-BOTTOM-END-KIT-2-STROKE?ride=YAMAHA;YZ125;2006

Try telling me thats not cheap... But again, personal preference is everything. I maintain you should ride both machines before you make your choice though. Good luck, happy screaming
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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2012, 02:35:30 AM »
Ended up getting a 2002 cr250 that was in storage for a while for $1900. original top end, tires ect.. maybe one day ill get another 125 and have both!

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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2012, 03:08:29 AM »
Ended up getting a 2002 cr250 that was in storage for a while for $1900. original top end, tires ect.. maybe one day ill get another 125 and have both!

if its as good of shape as you say sounds like youscored a good deal
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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2012, 03:35:24 AM »
Yea its really clean, ill try to get some pics up later

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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2012, 09:54:04 AM »
good thing about having a KTM 125 or 144 is that you can just put a 200 set up in it.  I probably will, I'm going to get sick of a 125 real quick.

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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2012, 08:14:25 PM »
After going between a 450 and 250 the past decade I really couldn't go back to a 125 and enjoy myself.  It would really have to be for a specific class like the Adult 125A that Glen Helen runs in their REM series.  For just being a weekend warrior practice guy I enjoy bikes that have the power to handle the deep loam and big jumps my local tracks have.  Track design simply wasn't the same 15 years ago when I rode 125s exclusively.  Big jumps use to be in the middle of straights, now they're right out of turns even on a local level. 

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Re: 125 vs 250 two stroke
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2012, 09:03:28 PM »
Was talking to Chuck about that yesterday at Budds Creek.  There are a couple big jumps, right out of deep loamy berms that I am going to have to huck on a 125.