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	<title>Comments on: RM model two strokes &#8211; Available in England!</title>
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		<title>By: dan d</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i got my 2010 rm 125 brand new a few months back now but so glad i bought it i had 2 250fs and a 150 and had problems with them all. bot no probs with any of my 2 strokes touch wood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i got my 2010 rm 125 brand new a few months back now but so glad i bought it i had 2 250fs and a 150 and had problems with them all. bot no probs with any of my 2 strokes touch wood.</p>
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		<title>By: robbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 17:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where are the dealers? ones that actually don&#039;t mess you about and have them instock? or.. even better, which websites can u get them delivered to your house at the same price perhaps, with only a total of say.. £70 postage cos?</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 06:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please sir provide the parts name of the yz250 clearly sir so that itcan be useful</description>
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		<title>By: mark80</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RM500:

They are still on their website:

http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bikes/index.php?sector=offroad&amp;subsector=off_moto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RM500:</p>
<p>They are still on their website:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bikes/index.php?sector=offroad&#038;subsector=off_moto" rel="nofollow">http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/bikes/index.php?sector=offroad&#038;subsector=off_moto</a></p>
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		<title>By: RM500</title>
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		<dc:creator>RM500</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 19:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the 2011 lineup Suzuki does not offer the 125 and 250 models anymore....(Europe) no comments or anything, they are just gone. 85cc 2stroke is still there,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the 2011 lineup Suzuki does not offer the 125 and 250 models anymore&#8230;.(Europe) no comments or anything, they are just gone. 85cc 2stroke is still there,</p>
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		<title>By: UKAF</title>
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		<dc:creator>UKAF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re working on a Service Suzuki RM250AFX for Luke Hill to ride in UK Enduro and XC events in 2010.

I&#039;ve spoken to AJ and we&#039;re just getting everything together ready for him to start the build.  We&#039;re pretty confident that the RMZ250 chassis and the RM motor will work really well together.

Luke was 2nd in the 2009 British 2 Stroke MX Championship on a Service Honda CR500AF, next year will be his first try at Enduro and XC but we&#039;re sure it&#039;ll work out well.

It&#039;ll be new year before we have anything to show but as soon as it&#039;s ready I&#039;ll get it to the magazines for testing - along with the KX250AFX and CR250AFX.

More as and when I get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re working on a Service Suzuki RM250AFX for Luke Hill to ride in UK Enduro and XC events in 2010.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spoken to AJ and we&#8217;re just getting everything together ready for him to start the build.  We&#8217;re pretty confident that the RMZ250 chassis and the RM motor will work really well together.</p>
<p>Luke was 2nd in the 2009 British 2 Stroke MX Championship on a Service Honda CR500AF, next year will be his first try at Enduro and XC but we&#8217;re sure it&#8217;ll work out well.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be new year before we have anything to show but as soon as it&#8217;s ready I&#8217;ll get it to the magazines for testing &#8211; along with the KX250AFX and CR250AFX.</p>
<p>More as and when I get it.</p>
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		<title>By: JustEnduro</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustEnduro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the General - GREAT WEBSITE!!!!!!!

I was not as smart as Dylan155.

My son bought a 1994 KX100 from doing a paper round. We rebuilt the bike (Suspension by a pro shop / brakes and Plastics and other bits) NOT THE MOTOR!!! He had loads of fun on a motor he could NOT KILL! 
I made a mistake and bought him a BRAND NEW CRF150R with ALL the after market parts fitted from new. I took him to the local tracks with both bikes. The 150R @ $6000 + hardly got a run on every occasion that both the bikes were on the trailer!!!!! (I stopped loading the KX100 onto the trailer)
I was NOT a happy father at all. I was pleased that he constantly hammered the other local riders. Some fathers came up to me as well as him, to find out exactly what it was he was riding - My son took great pleasure in telling them it was a 1994 KX80 - The looks and shock was unreal. A particular father with a whole lot of $ invested got fairly obnoxious when his son got nailed over and over by a 94 vintage KX he thought was a 80. 
My son eventually sold the KX100 and migrated to the 150R due to the improved suspension and brakes. NOT FOR THE MOTOR WHICH IS NOW ALMOST DEAD - LESS THAN 8 months OLD!?!?
He is about to migrate to a KTM200exc or KTM250xc-w and looking forward to being seated back on a 2 stroker – Has had a test ride and now nagging daily. 14 years old and he knows exactly what he wants from personal experience - 2 STROKE

A moment of weakness / stupidity of a 2 stroke fan that bought a 4 dope.
My only consolation is that with Junior Enduro and trail riding there was nothing else to choose from for a kid his size in Australia.
No doubt that the 150R is an amazing technological marvel 21Hp and revs to 14500rpm.
Voted the #1 technology bike for 06 &amp; 07 road and track. Never done by a dirt bike before let alone 2 years in a trot.
CONFESSION TIME – After owning this amazing pile of JUNK (Yep JUNK) I will never have a weak moment again – I am cured!!!!!!!!
This thing is more fragile than a floor made of eggs.

Just riding a 4 stroke is like handing your wallet to a kleptomaniac.
You may as well just leave your credit card at the dealer when you pick up the bike.

My gripe for the month / year is – WHY IS KTM STILL SITTING ON THE FENCE? They have and had a DFi in 06/07? Rotax has a production 600cc @ 130hp already selling to the public – Yamaha have reintroduced their 2 stroke outboards based on DFi – Evinrude scrapped 4T all together and meet every EPA standard with eTech - Snow mobiles already fitted and selling DFi units – Aprillia have been selling DFi scooters for some time already – Is KTM being a bit like Honda who had DFi in 1998?
From a logical point, I am sure that releasing the DFi would up their 2 stroke sales from 43% substantially. It would bring a LOT of 2 stroke fans out of the woodwork and those that have been loyal to Japan WILL migrate to KTM!
The kettle is on the boil – People are getting smarter and developing an allergy to 4 stroke The demand is growing daily – Yamaha have released a full YZ range for 2010 – Suzuki have done the same in the UK ALONG WITH A ENDURO RANGE - RM250xc

Come on KTM it’s not time to snooze or keep cashing in on the F models – Its time to deliver the first blow and go down in history as the first MX / Enduro bike on DFi.
99% of all bikes sold are for recreational use and many riders are NOT dumb enough to apply the AMA rules to recreational riding!  They want the DFi now – I am holding out and not buying my bike or son’s bike in the hope DFi will be rolled out soon. In the mean time we will plod along on what we have got – maybe buy an OLD 200 for the son in the mean time. NOT NEW UNTIL DFi is here!!!!

PS: Anybody want to buy a NEW 150R pile of junk? looking for a sucker...LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the General &#8211; GREAT WEBSITE!!!!!!!</p>
<p>I was not as smart as Dylan155.</p>
<p>My son bought a 1994 KX100 from doing a paper round. We rebuilt the bike (Suspension by a pro shop / brakes and Plastics and other bits) NOT THE MOTOR!!! He had loads of fun on a motor he could NOT KILL!<br />
I made a mistake and bought him a BRAND NEW CRF150R with ALL the after market parts fitted from new. I took him to the local tracks with both bikes. The 150R @ $6000 + hardly got a run on every occasion that both the bikes were on the trailer!!!!! (I stopped loading the KX100 onto the trailer)<br />
I was NOT a happy father at all. I was pleased that he constantly hammered the other local riders. Some fathers came up to me as well as him, to find out exactly what it was he was riding &#8211; My son took great pleasure in telling them it was a 1994 KX80 &#8211; The looks and shock was unreal. A particular father with a whole lot of $ invested got fairly obnoxious when his son got nailed over and over by a 94 vintage KX he thought was a 80.<br />
My son eventually sold the KX100 and migrated to the 150R due to the improved suspension and brakes. NOT FOR THE MOTOR WHICH IS NOW ALMOST DEAD &#8211; LESS THAN 8 months OLD!?!?<br />
He is about to migrate to a KTM200exc or KTM250xc-w and looking forward to being seated back on a 2 stroker – Has had a test ride and now nagging daily. 14 years old and he knows exactly what he wants from personal experience &#8211; 2 STROKE</p>
<p>A moment of weakness / stupidity of a 2 stroke fan that bought a 4 dope.<br />
My only consolation is that with Junior Enduro and trail riding there was nothing else to choose from for a kid his size in Australia.<br />
No doubt that the 150R is an amazing technological marvel 21Hp and revs to 14500rpm.<br />
Voted the #1 technology bike for 06 &amp; 07 road and track. Never done by a dirt bike before let alone 2 years in a trot.<br />
CONFESSION TIME – After owning this amazing pile of JUNK (Yep JUNK) I will never have a weak moment again – I am cured!!!!!!!!<br />
This thing is more fragile than a floor made of eggs.</p>
<p>Just riding a 4 stroke is like handing your wallet to a kleptomaniac.<br />
You may as well just leave your credit card at the dealer when you pick up the bike.</p>
<p>My gripe for the month / year is – WHY IS KTM STILL SITTING ON THE FENCE? They have and had a DFi in 06/07? Rotax has a production 600cc @ 130hp already selling to the public – Yamaha have reintroduced their 2 stroke outboards based on DFi – Evinrude scrapped 4T all together and meet every EPA standard with eTech &#8211; Snow mobiles already fitted and selling DFi units – Aprillia have been selling DFi scooters for some time already – Is KTM being a bit like Honda who had DFi in 1998?<br />
From a logical point, I am sure that releasing the DFi would up their 2 stroke sales from 43% substantially. It would bring a LOT of 2 stroke fans out of the woodwork and those that have been loyal to Japan WILL migrate to KTM!<br />
The kettle is on the boil – People are getting smarter and developing an allergy to 4 stroke The demand is growing daily – Yamaha have released a full YZ range for 2010 – Suzuki have done the same in the UK ALONG WITH A ENDURO RANGE &#8211; RM250xc</p>
<p>Come on KTM it’s not time to snooze or keep cashing in on the F models – Its time to deliver the first blow and go down in history as the first MX / Enduro bike on DFi.<br />
99% of all bikes sold are for recreational use and many riders are NOT dumb enough to apply the AMA rules to recreational riding!  They want the DFi now – I am holding out and not buying my bike or son’s bike in the hope DFi will be rolled out soon. In the mean time we will plod along on what we have got – maybe buy an OLD 200 for the son in the mean time. NOT NEW UNTIL DFi is here!!!!</p>
<p>PS: Anybody want to buy a NEW 150R pile of junk? looking for a sucker&#8230;LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan155</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dylan155</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m about 99% sure that Suzuki RM125 and RM250&#039;s are for just about everyone but the USA. I don&#039;t think they are importing them to the U.S.

We bought the last new 2007 rm125 in the Pacific Northwest for full list price in May 2008, and drove over seven hundred miles to get it (when gas was $4 a gallon). The sales guy couldn&#039;t understand why we wanted it.

In Feb 2007 I drove over seven hundred miles to a different dealership to get a brand new 2006 rm250, the last two stroke that dealership was going to sell, because &quot;they were done selling the two stroke because four strokes are better&quot;. When they gassed it up and started it and rode it around the building to the loading dock, everyone in the dealership scrambled to the doors and windows shouting &quot;do here that thing? Do smell that thing? Too bad it&#039;s the last one.&quot; They could have had 2 more full years of selling the rm250. The whole time the salesman was selling me that bike, he was trying to talk me out of it. &quot;&#039;Cause four strokes are better&quot;. Then when I told him I was looking for a RM125 for the boy, I got a big old lecture on how four strokes are better and I wouldn&#039;t be doing my son any favors by getting a two stroke. He told me I would be back in a month to get a 4t. This whole conversation took place in front of my son (then 12 years old). Do you know how hard it is to convince a kid of the two stroke thing when all the top pros he admires are on 4t&#039;s and all the salesmen say 4t&#039;s are better, and almost all the kids he races against are on 4t&#039;s? (And dad doesn&#039;t know a thing!) Even all the guys at the local Suzuki shop we were racing for localy would say the 2t is done, until they rode ours. Now three of them own RM&#039;s!

My point to the long story is I think that the lone salesman in the U.S. has done almost as much damage to the 2t as anyone else. (The idiotic displacement rules being #1 for damaging) If I didn&#039;t know any better, (that 4t&#039;s are just bigger) those sales guys would have talked me right into 4t&#039;s. 

Until silly americans start seeing their favorite top pros battling cc for cc, they will continue for the most part, to buy four strokes. And I&#039;m actually not anti-four stroke. If I were rich, I would have one of each. But since I&#039;m not and we race hard, we only have 2t&#039;s in our garage.

And Dylan now 15, races both his RM125&#039;S and he has taken over the RM250 and races that in the 250f class. Although he is still about the only one on the gate on a 250 2t, he appreciates the skill and conditioning that 2t&#039;s have forced him to achieve, and he loves how snappy and light the RM250 is. Dylan has no regrets at all about staying on two strokes this long and would love to be on a 2010 RM125 and 250. Although if he were rich, he would have one of each.

CC VS CC at the top level = freedom to choose 2t or 4t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m about 99% sure that Suzuki RM125 and RM250&#8242;s are for just about everyone but the USA. I don&#8217;t think they are importing them to the U.S.</p>
<p>We bought the last new 2007 rm125 in the Pacific Northwest for full list price in May 2008, and drove over seven hundred miles to get it (when gas was $4 a gallon). The sales guy couldn&#8217;t understand why we wanted it.</p>
<p>In Feb 2007 I drove over seven hundred miles to a different dealership to get a brand new 2006 rm250, the last two stroke that dealership was going to sell, because &#8220;they were done selling the two stroke because four strokes are better&#8221;. When they gassed it up and started it and rode it around the building to the loading dock, everyone in the dealership scrambled to the doors and windows shouting &#8220;do here that thing? Do smell that thing? Too bad it&#8217;s the last one.&#8221; They could have had 2 more full years of selling the rm250. The whole time the salesman was selling me that bike, he was trying to talk me out of it. &#8220;&#8216;Cause four strokes are better&#8221;. Then when I told him I was looking for a RM125 for the boy, I got a big old lecture on how four strokes are better and I wouldn&#8217;t be doing my son any favors by getting a two stroke. He told me I would be back in a month to get a 4t. This whole conversation took place in front of my son (then 12 years old). Do you know how hard it is to convince a kid of the two stroke thing when all the top pros he admires are on 4t&#8217;s and all the salesmen say 4t&#8217;s are better, and almost all the kids he races against are on 4t&#8217;s? (And dad doesn&#8217;t know a thing!) Even all the guys at the local Suzuki shop we were racing for localy would say the 2t is done, until they rode ours. Now three of them own RM&#8217;s!</p>
<p>My point to the long story is I think that the lone salesman in the U.S. has done almost as much damage to the 2t as anyone else. (The idiotic displacement rules being #1 for damaging) If I didn&#8217;t know any better, (that 4t&#8217;s are just bigger) those sales guys would have talked me right into 4t&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Until silly americans start seeing their favorite top pros battling cc for cc, they will continue for the most part, to buy four strokes. And I&#8217;m actually not anti-four stroke. If I were rich, I would have one of each. But since I&#8217;m not and we race hard, we only have 2t&#8217;s in our garage.</p>
<p>And Dylan now 15, races both his RM125&#8242;S and he has taken over the RM250 and races that in the 250f class. Although he is still about the only one on the gate on a 250 2t, he appreciates the skill and conditioning that 2t&#8217;s have forced him to achieve, and he loves how snappy and light the RM250 is. Dylan has no regrets at all about staying on two strokes this long and would love to be on a 2010 RM125 and 250. Although if he were rich, he would have one of each.</p>
<p>CC VS CC at the top level = freedom to choose 2t or 4t.</p>
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		<title>By: SCOOTER042</title>
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		<dc:creator>SCOOTER042</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I called my local shop and they said no 10 RM250. Maybe he overlooked it or just didnt care? Motox556, PLEASE email a photo or some kind of copy of this to John so he can post it here for us to see. I did hear one other person say they had it on the line list of 2010 bikes to take preorders on...

Come on somebody, show us!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called my local shop and they said no 10 RM250. Maybe he overlooked it or just didnt care? Motox556, PLEASE email a photo or some kind of copy of this to John so he can post it here for us to see. I did hear one other person say they had it on the line list of 2010 bikes to take preorders on&#8230;</p>
<p>Come on somebody, show us!!!</p>
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		<title>By: SCOOTER042</title>
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		<dc:creator>SCOOTER042</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sponsored by a Suzuki shop and was in the process of bailing on them because we will not buy 4 strokes. This would be tremendous news. We like our shop and the owners. I will have to make a call Monday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sponsored by a Suzuki shop and was in the process of bailing on them because we will not buy 4 strokes. This would be tremendous news. We like our shop and the owners. I will have to make a call Monday!</p>
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