Comments on: FMF 2 Stroke Invitational – Red Bud Edition

By: Shorty

Shorty — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:49:40 +0000

nice one
i hope you get a reply!
don’t get your hopes up though, i have emailed those guys countless times about this same exact question and no reply so far.

By: westyz

westyz — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:44:04 +0000

Hi shorty I’m in England to and want to find out about the FIM changes for sure cos not heard anything about it recently and worried they might have trued to ditch it after pressure from the manufacturers, so I emailed the FIM yesterday asking the following question – by the way the email address is info@fim-live.com if you want to ask also – I guess the head MX people at KTM would be a good source to ask as well

to info@fim-live.com
Dear Sir / Madam,

I read with great interest a press release from December 2007 in the FIM Website which said that from the 2010 season there will be a change allowing 2 strokes to compete fairly against 4 strokes of the same displacement in MX1 and MX2 – please see the text from the release below as follows -

“A meeting of the Motocross Grand Prix Permanent Bureau, composed of Messrs. Vito Ippolito, FIM President, and Giuseppe Luongo, Youthstream President, was held on December 1st in Monaco, in the presence of Messrs Wolfgang Srb, CMS President, Guy Maitre, FIM Chief Executive Officer and Ignacio Verneda, FIM Sports Director, in order to discuss future rules of Motocross and SuperMoto. The following decisions were taken by the Permanent Bureau:

* Motocross Classes: as of 2010, single cylinder engines will be used in MX1 and MX2 and multi-cylinder in MX3, whether 2 or 4-stroke (open concept). The cubic capacity will be 250cc in MX2, and up to 650cc in MX3. Discussions are currently being held about the cubic capacity in MX1. A decision should be taken in the next three months. Concerning the MX2 class, a maximum age limit of 23 years will be introduced. Moreover, a World Champion will be allowed to defend his title only one time (in the following year).”

My question was is this still a planned change? I have not seen anything about this change recently – it really would be a fantastic rule change to create a level playing field for both 2 and 4 strokes which would stop the unfair advantage four strokes have at the moment.

Thanks and hope to hear form you soon

Best wishes

Nick

By: Shorty

Shorty — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:49:20 +0000

will those rules move across to motocross in britain? cause i really wanna ride a 250 yam next year in the ’125′ group against the 250 4-strokes…
it will be great to see some 2 strokes back in action AND in the youth ranks aswell (no ore 150′s in the 85 group )

By: 2smoker

2smoker — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:25:34 +0000

This is just awesome!Cannot wait! Brappppp! Will see a lot of 500cc 2 stroke i bet in MX3! Europeans are way more fun! AMA = biased Organization! I wish just one day, I see a totally new 2 stroke on the cover of MXA with new frame with direct injection!I am going to buy 2 of them! One to stare at it in my living room and one to race!

By: JohnNicholas

JohnNicholas — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:32:41 +0000

Hey Shorty

Yes the change is coming in FIM Motocross for 2010.

“Motocross Classes: as of 2010, single cylinder engines will be used in MX1 and MX2 and multicylinder in MX3, whether 2 or 4-stroke (open concept). The cubic capacity will be 250cc in MX2, and up to 650cc in MX3.”

In this article you’ll find a link to the press release from the FIM.
http://twostrokemotocross.com/2008/12/two-stroke-on-the-comeback/

By: Shorty

Shorty — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:22:01 +0000

someone said about new rules in the FIM??
are they finaly gonna let 250′s (2 strokes) ride with 250′s? (4 strokes) :O

By: JohnNicholas

JohnNicholas — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:34:47 +0000

It does seem that the fans and some racers do want to see the two strokes compete. Keep your fingers crossed that the rules in the USA change to reflect the FIM rules for 2010.

2smoker, the lap times are listed above!

As for Emig’s clutch, I’m no parts guy at Kawasaki, but aren’t the clutch plates different from the two stroke to the four?

Here is a view inside a pro rig.
http://www.vitalmx.com/videos/features/Touring-the-JGRMX-ToyotaYamaha-Semi,3141/Touring-the-JGRMX-ToyotaYamaha-Semi,698/GuyB,64

Watch this closely, how many spare engines do they have on board?

By: 2smoker

2smoker — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:50:22 +0000

Also where is the laptimes for the 2 strokes? Why Emig never raced? Clutch problem? Dumbass excuse! They were not able to rebuild it at a Nationals with semi full of parts?hahaha Emig = Chicken! Stanton! I love you! A real rider! This not the LUCAS Leap it is the Larroco Leap..get it straigh! What a shame

By: 2smoker

2smoker — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:36:04 +0000

Why we need the Nationals when we have the GOAT @ RedBud on a 2 stroke? Seriously! Watched the motos on TV..Boring as hell! Never showed anything about the 2 stroke invitational at all..yeah I am so surprise! Mad props to FMF and everybody involved with it!There are still people in the industry left with some integrity to our lovely sport . MXA is another one. AMA with the major manufacturers in the industry is doing a good job brainwashing the young new riders to 4 stroke.. Cannot believe the comments on Transworldmx sometimes.. but why people are still going to the races and keep buying 4 stroke? why people just bother about supercross and the AMA? Why riders don’t take action instead of bitching about it on any forums and just waiting for the manufacturers to release a new 2 stroke or the rules to change? but cannot wait to see the racing overseas next year with the FIM taking action.
They can call it the old school 2 stroke when we all know that 4 stroke is an older technology with double displacement allowed..and they can call it the new NASCAR..but it is MOTOCROSS.

By: Shorty

Shorty — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:34:08 +0000

give him 2-3 weeks ard training and stick him out with the 450 class on his 250.. I reckon the results would be interesting