Most Nationals also have the WMA races also as the Glen Helen event does. Kind of fills the plate, but we all want to watch as much racing and less of the fluff.

My understanding with the current Fed govt is of a much less tolerance to “pollution belching” two strokes; like leaf blower, etc that get used much on a daily basis country wide, while most that ride/race the current two strokes are either amateurs or enthusiast that are a very small minority of the current population and market of just this country alone.

Why in the dickens Yamaha, who already has DI two stroke tech in their boat motors doesn’t try like KTM apparently has in using development dollars to create a MX equivilent; OEMs just see dollars that every moving part the thumpers make them.

This year in California, a DI two stroke motor again was awarded by CARB top billing for lowest small engine emissions. This tech has been awarded top honors first in believe ‘04 or ‘05 and every year after in the toughest emission state.

Motocrossers usually like things technically new and “fresh”.

Take the ‘73 125 Elsinores. ‘77-’80 Yamaha monos; ‘81 RM watercooler w/Full Floater susp…..mean there are numbers of examples of two stroke tech that the public bought into in droves.

DI technology continues to proves it passes the most stringent pollution standards that California has in the country declared by the California Air Resources Board or(CARB).

Be nice if(IMO big if) KTM mass produces DI engine technology dirtbikes that prove to stay competitive with current thumper chumper bikes.

That would excite the motocross world to have this cutting edge stuff without Big Brother hassling those who ride them since they pass the most stringent pollution guidelines along with reduced noise; another issue yet..

I’m not sold on an electric bike that KTM “apparently” has been testing as others have. Can’t see real racing electric machines that wouldn’t cost an arm and leg MSRP and the upkeep of battery power; take years to still test for reliability purposes.

The past few years, I’ve heard numerous riders that owned 250/450Fs go back to their two stroke counterpart; much happier are they now; in riding and maintenance.

Not just one or two; a whole lot.

Hope just ONE; one OEM brings DI technology to fruition and see if the rest come scrambling to bring on their own version if the first models prove very successful; a high bar to clear, but see no reason it couldn’t be.

Just want one of them to try. Bet it will be popular; new and fresh as dirtbikers like. Even if it were to cost a grand or more that current four strokers; you will save that in the longrun easily.

AM

-WRONG!!! We’re not asking Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki to spin up production of two strokes again. That hopefully would have just been a biproduct of increased public interest. The rule ONLY stood to benefit Yamaha and KTM who already produce two strokes to begin with. The others are just shit out of luck! And they need not “redevelop” any of them. They’re already superior as is. Again, R&D may come after time. This answer makes sense when we talk about bumping the 450 class down to 350, but we’re not. The 250 two strokes already exist. And if they aren’t currently in production, then I guess the rule has no effect on them anyway then does it?!?! The three manufacturers that don’t produce two strokes are scared shitless. That’s all there is to it.
I would be just as pleased if not more so to see a two stroke only series like the UK has spun up. Then I would have no reason to go and suffer through another boring AMA national.

Mick

Personally I will not attend any Pro National race unless their is at least one two stroke racing. At least a two stroke support class or an Invitational like at Glen Helen. Otherwise the racing is just not interesting to me.

As for local racing, some areas in the US already have the 250cc rule in place already. So you can race a 250cc two stroke against a 250 four stroke. But unfortunately they have virtually eliminated the 125 cc class.

What we did here in our local area is approached a track owner and asked for a 125cc two stroke only class for one day. We are now trying to get as many two stroke racers as possible to attend this one-off event. With any luck we will have a great turnout and maybe get some traction to add the class permanently.

This seems like the only viable option open to us at this time.

The only other option would be to create a two stroke series, similar to what they have in the UK.

Do you have a positive suggestion on how to bring back the two stroke? Please let us hear it.