Comments on: Two Stroke vs. Four Stroke – Let the debate begin http://twostrokemotocross.com/2009/01/two-stroke-vs-four-stroke-let-the-debate-begin/ The source for two stroke News, Tech and Tips. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:13:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dominic http://twostrokemotocross.com/2009/01/two-stroke-vs-four-stroke-let-the-debate-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-15345 Dominic Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:47:43 +0000 http://twostrokemotocross.com/?p=715#comment-15345 otherwise.. 2 stroke is better than 4 joke, because, the maintenance of 4 stroke are higher than 2 stroke... i like 2 STROKES! because they have power.. and they said that 2 stroke are smokers.. but now, See the YAMAHA YZ125 or 250 2 STROKES... they dont have smokes.. thats the technology for now otherwise.. 2 stroke is better than 4 joke, because, the maintenance of 4 stroke are higher than 2 stroke… i like 2 STROKES! because they have power.. and they said that 2 stroke are smokers.. but now, See the YAMAHA YZ125 or 250 2 STROKES… they dont have smokes.. thats the technology for now

]]> By: Darren http://twostrokemotocross.com/2009/01/two-stroke-vs-four-stroke-let-the-debate-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14307 Darren Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:48:15 +0000 http://twostrokemotocross.com/?p=715#comment-14307 You can tune a 2 stroke any way you want. I have an old kawasaki 350 2 stroke that has more torque, more sheer ass than any modern 4 stroke. I rode a friends yzf450, and yes, it was quick but after hearing all about how "crazy" the new 4 strokes were I had psyched myself up to be scared and amazed. It was pretty flat. The power I mean. Too easy, no rush. I got off the 450, and I was like, that was it? My 75 KX400 scares me FAR more. I am a vintage guy so and I have always thought that having lots of plush progressive suspension made it TOO easy to ride fast and jump high, its soooo forgiving. I see dumb mistakes made by modern riders at the local tracks that would have hurt someone bad in the old days, but the suspension just eats it up. The 4 stroke engines of today just add to this. It takes alot of the skill away from the game. NOTHING and I mean NOTHING can match the rush of when a big 2 stroke comes on the power. Not to mention that the SOUND of a modern 4 stroke is obnoxious and is KILLING the sport. Read; track closings, riding area closings, etc. You can tune a 2 stroke any way you want. I have an old kawasaki 350 2 stroke that has more torque, more sheer ass than any modern 4 stroke. I rode a friends yzf450, and yes, it was quick but after hearing all about how “crazy” the new 4 strokes were I had psyched myself up to be scared and amazed. It was pretty flat. The power I mean. Too easy, no rush. I got off the 450, and I was like, that was it? My 75 KX400 scares me FAR more.

I am a vintage guy so and I have always thought that having lots of plush progressive suspension made it TOO easy to ride fast and jump high, its soooo forgiving. I see dumb mistakes made by modern riders at the local tracks that would have hurt someone bad in the old days, but the suspension just eats it up. The 4 stroke engines of today just add to this. It takes alot of the skill away from the game.

NOTHING and I mean NOTHING can match the rush of when a big 2 stroke comes on the power. Not to mention that the SOUND of a modern 4 stroke is obnoxious and is KILLING the sport. Read; track closings, riding area closings, etc.

]]> By: the dirtbiker http://twostrokemotocross.com/2009/01/two-stroke-vs-four-stroke-let-the-debate-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-9990 the dirtbiker Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:33:17 +0000 http://twostrokemotocross.com/?p=715#comment-9990 i own 3 bikes 1987 can am ASE200, 2011 kawasaki KX250,2007 honda Cr250r all 2 stroke and i rode my friends 2005 CR450 and it was nothing compared to my 2 strokes. 2t's are way better then 4t's not biased or anything it just my opinion. my 200 can clear the table in 3rd the 450 has to clear it in 4th i own 3 bikes 1987 can am ASE200, 2011 kawasaki KX250,2007 honda Cr250r
all 2 stroke and i rode my friends 2005 CR450 and it was nothing compared to my 2 strokes. 2t’s are way better then 4t’s not biased or anything it just my opinion. my 200 can clear the table in 3rd the 450 has to clear it in 4th

]]> By: james ramsey http://twostrokemotocross.com/2009/01/two-stroke-vs-four-stroke-let-the-debate-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-9231 james ramsey Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:28:25 +0000 http://twostrokemotocross.com/?p=715#comment-9231 ridered....you remind me of a abortion servivor...the first thing thats wrong with your little statement is what you said about 2t having more torque than 4t... i have two little 2 horsepower scooters and i have to push my 2t scooter up a hill...BUT the 4t may be heavier but it can actualy cary me up a hill....and on the power factor of a 2t just cause your tires are spinning and you are going fast dosent mean you have a shit load of power, it just means that you have more high end power....on a 4t you can start at the bottom of a steep ass hill and get up it no prob(on a 2t however you have to get a running start) and 4t technolagy completly surpasses the tech. of a 2t...and i will give it about 2-3 years and 4ts will be as light as 2ts ridered….you remind me of a abortion servivor…the first thing thats wrong with your little statement is what you said about 2t having more torque than 4t… i have two little 2 horsepower scooters and i have to push my 2t scooter up a hill…BUT the 4t may be heavier but it can actualy cary me up a hill….and on the power factor of a 2t just cause your tires are spinning and you are going fast dosent mean you have a shit load of power, it just means that you have more high end power….on a 4t you can start at the bottom of a steep ass hill and get up it no prob(on a 2t however you have to get a running start) and 4t technolagy completly surpasses the tech. of a 2t…and i will give it about 2-3 years and 4ts will be as light as 2ts

]]> By: blahhh http://twostrokemotocross.com/2009/01/two-stroke-vs-four-stroke-let-the-debate-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-7421 blahhh Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:07:14 +0000 http://twostrokemotocross.com/?p=715#comment-7421 wtf. jumps that would have been impossible on a two stroke are easily done on a four stroke? hmmm i guess thats why free stylers use two strokes cuz theyre not faster or lighter or anything like that. wtf. jumps that would have been impossible on a two stroke are easily done on a four stroke? hmmm i guess thats why free stylers use two strokes cuz theyre not faster or lighter or anything like that.

]]> By: DZSAL http://twostrokemotocross.com/2009/01/two-stroke-vs-four-stroke-let-the-debate-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-6751 DZSAL Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:29:10 +0000 http://twostrokemotocross.com/?p=715#comment-6751 hi, i've own a mito 125 2 strokes and it is much more fun than a 4 strokers. Lightweight, fast and loud. but the parts are really2 expensive here in malaysia =( hi, i’ve own a mito 125 2 strokes and it is much more fun than a 4 strokers.
Lightweight, fast and loud. but the parts are really2 expensive here in malaysia =(

]]> By: todd http://twostrokemotocross.com/2009/01/two-stroke-vs-four-stroke-let-the-debate-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-6634 todd Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:52:01 +0000 http://twostrokemotocross.com/?p=715#comment-6634 im so sick and tired of everyone being against the 2 stroke. everyone that is a serious rider is for 2 strokes and the people that dont ride hate them. and they are the ones that get to throw them out? every single forum i read 98 percent of the people are as peeved as me about all of this. bring the 2 stroke back! i dont know why the big manufacturers are ignoring us. im so sick and tired of everyone being against the 2 stroke. everyone that is a serious rider is for 2 strokes and the people that dont ride hate them. and they are the ones that get to throw them out? every single forum i read 98 percent of the people are as peeved as me about all of this. bring the 2 stroke back! i dont know why the big manufacturers are ignoring us.

]]> By: JoshTzr125 http://twostrokemotocross.com/2009/01/two-stroke-vs-four-stroke-let-the-debate-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-6588 JoshTzr125 Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:17:42 +0000 http://twostrokemotocross.com/?p=715#comment-6588 2T Rules every class up to the stupid "point & shoot" bikes from japan, 2T Beats 4T on scooters, it beats them on 125's, it beats them on 250's, the 500 2 strokes are absolutely untouchable and i do recall there being a kawasaki 700cc 2 stroke, that is some serious stuff. Okay your modern R1 Or Blade will beat most things, but its what your into. However, sticking to the point of motocross, its time for the 2T to make its re-entrance on the track, expansion chanmbers the size of the hulks bicep, (in the 500cc case) more torque than the vans that take them to the tracks, so much easier, okay you might get a fouled sparkplug every once in a while, but for that burst of powerband and amazing noise, its so worth it. 2T Rules every class up to the stupid “point & shoot” bikes from japan, 2T Beats 4T on scooters, it beats them on 125′s, it beats them on 250′s, the 500 2 strokes are absolutely untouchable and i do recall there being a kawasaki 700cc 2 stroke, that is some serious stuff.
Okay your modern R1 Or Blade will beat most things, but its what your into.
However, sticking to the point of motocross, its time for the 2T to make its re-entrance on the track, expansion chanmbers the size of the hulks bicep, (in the 500cc case) more torque than the vans that take them to the tracks, so much easier, okay you might get a fouled sparkplug every once in a while, but for that burst of powerband and amazing noise, its so worth it.

]]> By: yz250f http://twostrokemotocross.com/2009/01/two-stroke-vs-four-stroke-let-the-debate-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-6422 yz250f Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:48:42 +0000 http://twostrokemotocross.com/?p=715#comment-6422 the four strokes are the better all around machine they have bottom end mid range and top end and four strokes dominate the races. since they have power all around you're not relying on powerband to save the day. 2 strokes may feel like they have tons of mid and top end but that just stands out because they have absolutely no bottom end so thats why their mid range and top end stands out so much. no matter where you are in your rpms on your four stroke the power is always there. the only thing that 2 strokes have is better handleing. but with a fourstroke they'll go forever as long as you change your oil regularly a four stroke will go forever. with a 2 stroke they will all eventually be due for a rebuild. if you mix the gas just slightly too lean say goodbye to your engine. with a fourstroke just run the highest octane gas you can get and everything is fine. theres a reason why honda, kawasaki and suzuki stopped making 2 strokes, 4 strokes just out perform them. the four strokes are the better all around machine they have bottom end mid range and top end and four strokes dominate the races. since they have power all around you’re not relying on powerband to save the day. 2 strokes may feel like they have tons of mid and top end but that just stands out because they have absolutely no bottom end so thats why their mid range and top end stands out so much. no matter where you are in your rpms on your four stroke the power is always there. the only thing that 2 strokes have is better handleing. but with a fourstroke they’ll go forever as long as you change your oil regularly a four stroke will go forever. with a 2 stroke they will all eventually be due for a rebuild. if you mix the gas just slightly too lean say goodbye to your engine. with a fourstroke just run the highest octane gas you can get and everything is fine. theres a reason why honda, kawasaki and suzuki stopped making 2 strokes, 4 strokes just out perform them.

]]> By: ridered http://twostrokemotocross.com/2009/01/two-stroke-vs-four-stroke-let-the-debate-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-6001 ridered Tue, 21 Jun 2011 19:55:15 +0000 http://twostrokemotocross.com/?p=715#comment-6001 2 Strokes actually take skill to ride good, anyone can ride a four stroke. No 4 stroke will ever compete with the torque and power that a 2 stroke can deliver. Put a life long 4 stroke rider on a 2 stroke and i bet they wont be able to handle it. Only reason 2 strokes are fading away is because this whole global warming farse has the country brain washed and the big sponsors have to follow along with it and sink all their money into four stroke technology so they dont look bad to the public. So go buy a 2 stroke and piss off all these hippy liberals and smoke the four strokes and let them know they will not take these away from us. 2 Strokes actually take skill to ride good, anyone can ride a four stroke. No 4 stroke will ever compete with the torque and power that a 2 stroke can deliver. Put a life long 4 stroke rider on a 2 stroke and i bet they wont be able to handle it. Only reason 2 strokes are fading away is because this whole global warming farse has the country brain washed and the big sponsors have to follow along with it and sink all their money into four stroke technology so they dont look bad to the public. So go buy a 2 stroke and piss off all these hippy liberals and smoke the four strokes and let them know they will not take these away from us.

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